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Reply #3 - May 25th, 2006 at 12:33am

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Hi Paul,
Your question/answer was found in the link,
http://www.realcolorwheel.com/final.htm
by searching for the word tempera.

CASEIN-TEMPERA-EMULSION

There are two types of casein tempera paints, both very strong glues, casein with lime is so strong that if it's not diluted very thin with 5 parts water, it could pull an old thin coat of plaster off a lower coat. Casein sets quickly, simi-mat, and transparent, all of the pigment is exposed, making a very luminous surface. Casein should be prepared fresh daily, in small quantities instead of depending on preservatives which effect there painting qualities. (Dry) Lime combines with casein or egg yolk to make a weatherproof mural paint. Use only pigments that can stand up to lye, some vegetable dyes will bleach out.

Start with fresh skim milk curd and add four times as much slaked lime to make a paste. This is the glue the wood workers use on furniture. This is also the casein lime medium, mix the pigments in some thin paste to paint with. Casein medium will emulsify egg, mastic, balsam and wax soap. Oil will emulsify also but will quickly turn yellow, stand oil is better suited.

Casein powder is available in two types, pure dried curd, which is insoluble in water but is soluble in ammonia and mono ammonium caseinate, which will dissolve in water. If it chunks up because it's old, add some ammonia. It doesn't take much ammonia water to dissolve either fresh curd or the powdered pure curd, soak the pure powdered curd for a few hours before adding the ammonia, 1/5 its volume over moderate heat will cause the effervescent reaction. When the reaction resides the casein will be in a colloidal state, stir it until it's cool. Casein is still strong when it's water thin.

Thin a shellac size to apply an intermediate sealing coat to a casein painting or it will soak up an oil glaze like a blotter.

Casein and lead mix well together, combining this white with an oil white makes a fast drying white for water or oil, whichever has the higher concentration. Copper colors turn blue in ammonia.

1200, TECHNIQUE,
Russian icons on wood were painted in egg-distempera, without oil. Their artists were taught by the Byzantine, who could work in glazed tile not just on parchment or wood. The Russian's would paint icons on wood for the next five centuries.
1300,
The support panel was coated with glue then canvas. Glue, gypsum or clay and lead white was the ground, another medium was egg with fig juice and water, a basic tempera.

The drawing was applied in Green Veronese Earth [iron], leaving white to be modeled both warm and cool. A darker green was made with burnt green earth, also Lamp Black and Yellow Ocher mixed. Sinopis and Cinabrese were the red earths.

Three graded tones to dark rounded and modeled everything. They also had boiled and sun dried linseed oil for glazing over the tempera. Sandarac (sandracca), was a final glaze. Giotto sometimes glazed in mastic over egg but he didn't mix them together. More mastic or oil than egg would make it turpentine based, a less advantageous mix.

For in depth information, go to this egg tempera paintings page.
http://www.realcolorwheel.com/eggtempera.htm

 
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Reply #2 - May 24th, 2006 at 10:05pm

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Don-I am confused  Is Powdered Casein the same thing as Powdered Pigments, used in egg tempera? ??? ???
 
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Reply #1 - May 14th, 2006 at 11:05pm

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BarbaraC wrote:

>Don, thanks again for your responses.
>
>Re Casein:  When you used skim milk ­ is that all you used as a medium?
>Just the skim milk as liquid mixed with powdered pigments?  Sounds fabulous
>if that's what happened.
>
>Barbara
>

Pretty simple supply list isn't it.
3 transparent colors and breakfast.
http://www.realcolorwheel.com/3colors.htm
 
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May 14th, 2006 at 8:42pm

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BarbaraC wrote:

>Hi Don:  Thanks for your email to me.
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>I have more questions:
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>Do you have a source for powdered casein?  When I first started painting, I
>used powdered casein, made my own medium with it and loved it.  It was easy
>to get casein 40 years ago, now I can't find it.
>

Hi Barbara, it's easier then ever now to get things. Go to Google and type in powered or dry casein.

I did a test on a glass plate with 2 different paints, same color, one casein and one skim milk 3 years ago.

I got the endorsement for skim milk paint from a woman who had been painting her house with it for years. It seems it was always done in her area, Northern Europe if I recall.

Casein may be stronger but 3 years later my plate looks the same. This paint on the plate I can't scratch off with a fingernail.. either one. They still look the same. If you're using dry pigment give it a spin. I'll do it with my fresco pigments on an acrylic gesso panel. I love painting from finely ground dry pigment.

You could really make it strong with skim milk and egg yolk. But casein is strongest. Dried curd reconstituted is not as strong as wet curd.

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>Do you have separate colour charts for W/C using granulating colours?
>

No, I don't use them.

>
>Many thanks for your amazing work.
>
>Barbara
>

Thank you,
Here is the page in the color course about casein.
http://www.realcolorwheel.com/final.htm#CASEIN-TEMPERA
Don


 
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